1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Tonight, our expedition unknown global event moves east. 2 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,000 And the search for the afterlife takes an intense turn. 3 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,000 This is a place that is extremely holy. 4 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,500 Cameras are not allowed. 5 00:00:24,500 --> 00:00:29,500 I attempt to get rare access to witness one of the most ancient funeral rituals on earth. 6 00:00:30,500 --> 00:00:34,500 Where people cross over right before your eyes. 7 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:40,500 In a historic graveyard, my audience with one of America's most famous psychics 8 00:00:40,500 --> 00:00:43,500 leads to an uncanny message from the beyond. 9 00:00:43,500 --> 00:00:45,500 Somebody knocking on my door all of a sudden. 10 00:00:45,500 --> 00:00:47,500 Did you recently have a death? 11 00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:55,500 And across the country, I have an encounter with pure evil. 12 00:00:55,500 --> 00:00:56,500 Who's with you? 13 00:00:56,500 --> 00:00:57,500 We have many. 14 00:00:59,500 --> 00:01:04,500 My name is Josh Gates. 15 00:01:04,500 --> 00:01:10,500 I've traveled to more than a hundred countries, exploring the world's greatest legends. 16 00:01:10,500 --> 00:01:13,500 And had a few close calls along the way. 17 00:01:13,500 --> 00:01:15,500 It's collapsing! 18 00:01:15,500 --> 00:01:21,500 In my travels, I've seen a world of beliefs about what happens to us when we die. 19 00:01:21,500 --> 00:01:26,500 Now, I'm investigating the biggest mystery of all. 20 00:01:27,500 --> 00:01:29,500 Life after death. 21 00:01:29,500 --> 00:01:32,500 Join me on a global hunt for answers. 22 00:01:32,500 --> 00:01:35,500 My God, there are bones everywhere! 23 00:01:36,500 --> 00:01:39,500 And an investigation to the other side. 24 00:01:41,500 --> 00:01:43,500 This is Expedition Unknown. 25 00:01:43,500 --> 00:01:45,500 Search for the afterlife. 26 00:01:47,500 --> 00:01:50,500 Is there life after death? 27 00:01:50,500 --> 00:01:53,500 It's a question we all think about. 28 00:01:57,500 --> 00:02:03,500 Now, I'm going to the ends of the Earth for evidence of what happens beyond this Earth. 29 00:02:03,500 --> 00:02:10,500 My search began in Turkey, exploring the ancient myth of a gateway to the other side. 30 00:02:10,500 --> 00:02:12,500 This is the gate to hell. 31 00:02:12,500 --> 00:02:16,500 And where a sacred mystery was solved by science. 32 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:19,500 You take the mask off, you will die. 33 00:02:20,500 --> 00:02:29,500 Next, I flew to New York City, where I learned that human consciousness is more durable than we ever imagined. 34 00:02:29,500 --> 00:02:38,500 The evidence we have so far is that the entity we call the human mind and consciousness does not become annihilated when a person has gone beyond the threshold of death. 35 00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:47,500 And then, met with a group of people who have experienced death first hand and lived to tell the tale. 36 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:51,500 Do you have a recollection of actually being outside of your body? 37 00:02:51,500 --> 00:02:52,500 Absolutely. 38 00:02:56,500 --> 00:03:05,500 To look for evidence first hand, I've traveled to Los Angeles, California to meet with a man who claims to be able to speak with the dead. 39 00:03:05,500 --> 00:03:12,500 This island lies inside Tinseltown's most famous final address, the historic Hollywood Forever Cemetery. 40 00:03:13,500 --> 00:03:25,500 Here, psychic Chip Coffey is giving a private gallery reading, and he's allowing my cameras to capture every moment and ascertain if there really is such a thing as a long distance call to the beyond. 41 00:03:25,500 --> 00:03:29,500 Who are you going to ask me to reach out to you because I know you're asking me to talk to a dead person. 42 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:30,500 We miss her. 43 00:03:30,500 --> 00:03:31,500 To what you just said? 44 00:03:31,500 --> 00:03:32,500 Good. 45 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:34,500 You should. 46 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:39,500 In general, I describe myself as an open-minded skeptic when it comes to the paranormal. 47 00:03:39,500 --> 00:03:42,500 But now, Chip's attention has turned to me. 48 00:03:42,500 --> 00:03:44,500 So I'm going to pick on you. 49 00:03:44,500 --> 00:03:45,500 Oh no. 50 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:48,500 I'm merely a spectator here, Chip. 51 00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:52,500 So I've got a question for you. 52 00:03:52,500 --> 00:03:55,500 There's somebody knocking on my door all of a sudden. 53 00:03:55,500 --> 00:03:56,500 Okay. 54 00:03:56,500 --> 00:03:58,500 Did you recently have a death? 55 00:03:58,500 --> 00:03:59,500 Yes. 56 00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:00,500 Okay. 57 00:04:04,500 --> 00:04:06,500 M. 58 00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:08,500 Shut up. 59 00:04:08,500 --> 00:04:09,500 Yes. 60 00:04:09,500 --> 00:04:10,500 M. 61 00:04:13,500 --> 00:04:14,500 Madeline. 62 00:04:14,500 --> 00:04:15,500 Madeline? 63 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:16,500 Madeline. 64 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:17,500 Maddie. 65 00:04:17,500 --> 00:04:18,500 Maddie? 66 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:19,500 Is she related to you through your dad? 67 00:04:19,500 --> 00:04:21,500 Yeah, she's my dad's sister. 68 00:04:21,500 --> 00:04:22,500 Your dad is still alive, though. 69 00:04:22,500 --> 00:04:23,500 He is. 70 00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:24,500 Stubborn as hell. 71 00:04:24,500 --> 00:04:25,500 Just like me. 72 00:04:27,500 --> 00:04:30,500 But such a sweet guy loves you to death. 73 00:04:31,500 --> 00:04:34,500 Damn you, Chip Coffee. 74 00:04:34,500 --> 00:04:36,500 Why am I getting like tribal stuff? 75 00:04:36,500 --> 00:04:39,500 Like, does that mean anything tribal? 76 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:43,500 Something stuff. 77 00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:50,500 She had a store which sold a lot of Native American kind of folk art stuff. 78 00:04:50,500 --> 00:04:52,500 Why Arrowhead? 79 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:53,500 I don't know. 80 00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:54,500 Because they'll show me things. 81 00:04:54,500 --> 00:04:56,500 Isn't like Arrowhead around here someplace? 82 00:04:56,500 --> 00:04:57,500 Yes. 83 00:04:57,500 --> 00:04:59,500 Or just Arrowhead? 84 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:02,500 Yeah, I think I might know what it is. 85 00:05:02,500 --> 00:05:11,500 Before she passed, she gave me a, it's like a Tomahawk thing that looks like an Arrowhead. 86 00:05:11,500 --> 00:05:17,500 The Flintblade was from a shop owned by my aunt that sold Native American tribal art. 87 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:23,500 Since I received the gift, it's been displayed in my headquarters as a little Easter egg for her. 88 00:05:23,500 --> 00:05:25,500 She's great. 89 00:05:25,500 --> 00:05:28,500 She is so proud of you. 90 00:05:28,500 --> 00:05:35,500 The truth is, I told no one about the object and hadn't even told my closest friends about my aunt's recent passing. 91 00:05:35,500 --> 00:05:41,500 The fact that Chip seemed to hone in on her was not only more than I ever expected, it shook me up. 92 00:05:41,500 --> 00:05:46,500 And you want to hear something that's really funny? 93 00:05:46,500 --> 00:05:49,500 She says, I know all about editing. 94 00:05:49,500 --> 00:05:52,500 And if you edit my part of this out of the show. 95 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:54,500 That sounds like her. 96 00:05:54,500 --> 00:05:57,500 I'll come up with a new video. 97 00:05:57,500 --> 00:05:58,500 Sounds like her. 98 00:05:58,500 --> 00:06:01,500 I'll come for you. 99 00:06:01,500 --> 00:06:08,500 For centuries, many people have branded psychics and mediums as cons and opportunists. 100 00:06:08,500 --> 00:06:15,500 If I'm being honest, even I watch their work like a spectator at a magic show, looking for that nearly invisible thread. 101 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:19,500 But when you spend time around Chip, it's hard to be skeptical. 102 00:06:19,500 --> 00:06:21,500 Thank you, Chip. 103 00:06:21,500 --> 00:06:23,500 Thank you, Josh. 104 00:06:28,500 --> 00:06:33,500 Chip operates in a framework that seems familiar to many of us. 105 00:06:33,500 --> 00:06:37,500 A peaceful afterlife, disembodied conscious souls. 106 00:06:37,500 --> 00:06:43,500 But there are places in the world where the traditional heaven and hell of western religion is irrelevant. 107 00:06:43,500 --> 00:06:49,500 Where ancient ideas connect us to a universe without end. 108 00:06:49,500 --> 00:06:55,500 Places like San Diego. 109 00:06:55,500 --> 00:07:03,500 Well, I'm here in this beach ball Babylon to meet with a man who is a world famous author, a doctor, and a spiritual guru. 110 00:07:03,500 --> 00:07:06,500 He is connected to a higher authority. 111 00:07:06,500 --> 00:07:11,500 By which I mean he's friends with Oprah. 112 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:20,500 I'm talking about Dr. Deepak Chopra, who has merged western medicine and eastern philosophy to receive worldwide acclaim. 113 00:07:20,500 --> 00:07:26,500 The Chopra Center for Wellness is his beautiful campus overlooking the Pacific Coast. 114 00:07:26,500 --> 00:07:32,500 I'm here because Dr. Chopra has also set his formidable mind on the subject of the afterlife. 115 00:07:32,500 --> 00:07:37,500 And I want to know why everything I thought I knew about death might be wrong. 116 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:39,500 Very nice to meet you. 117 00:07:39,500 --> 00:07:40,500 Nice to meet you. 118 00:07:40,500 --> 00:07:43,500 Thank you so much for taking the time. I appreciate it. 119 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:52,500 Doctor, one of the reasons I'm so excited to talk to you is that you're very unique in that you're a doctor, you're an MD, you're an endocrinologist. 120 00:07:52,500 --> 00:07:55,500 You also have a much broader belief system. 121 00:07:55,500 --> 00:08:00,500 Can science and this broader belief system, can they coexist? 122 00:08:00,500 --> 00:08:05,500 If we understand the limitations of science. 123 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:10,500 So in my view, all forms of realism take you away from the truth. 124 00:08:10,500 --> 00:08:11,500 Right. 125 00:08:11,500 --> 00:08:15,500 So if I ask you, what's this thing there? 126 00:08:15,500 --> 00:08:16,500 Palm tree. 127 00:08:16,500 --> 00:08:17,500 A palm tree. 128 00:08:17,500 --> 00:08:24,500 That's a human description for a human experience in human consciousness. 129 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:29,500 What does that palm tree look like to a snake? 130 00:08:29,500 --> 00:08:36,500 What is the experience of that palm tree to a bat that only knows the echo of ultrasound? 131 00:08:36,500 --> 00:08:42,500 The snake, the bat and I all perceive the tree very differently, yet we're all correct. 132 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:49,500 Reality then is completely subjective and according to Deepak, extremely temporary. 133 00:08:49,500 --> 00:08:52,500 We met over there. What happened to that experience? 134 00:08:52,500 --> 00:08:54,500 Some people would say it's in the past. 135 00:08:54,500 --> 00:08:56,500 It's in the past. It doesn't exist. 136 00:08:56,500 --> 00:08:59,500 A fraction of a second ago doesn't exist. 137 00:08:59,500 --> 00:09:02,500 A fraction of a second from now doesn't exist. 138 00:09:02,500 --> 00:09:06,500 By the time my words reach you, they don't exist. 139 00:09:06,500 --> 00:09:08,500 The moment is this. 140 00:09:08,500 --> 00:09:11,500 It's your window to that which is timeless. 141 00:09:11,500 --> 00:09:13,500 In a moment, this will be gone. 142 00:09:13,500 --> 00:09:16,500 Lost like a wisp of smoke. 143 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:20,500 In Deepak's view, reality is an ephemeral dream. 144 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:24,500 Merely a series of experiences for our eternal consciousness, 145 00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:29,500 which existed before we were born and which will continue after we die. 146 00:09:29,500 --> 00:09:31,500 I think I need to sit down. 147 00:09:31,500 --> 00:09:34,500 So let's talk about the concept of an afterlife. 148 00:09:34,500 --> 00:09:39,500 Do you think that in this afterlife there's knowledge and understanding? 149 00:09:39,500 --> 00:09:44,500 You'll wake up from the dream and there'll be ultimate clarity. 150 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:46,500 Is reincarnation part of this framework? 151 00:09:46,500 --> 00:09:50,500 Yes. Everything recycles, including plastic. 152 00:09:50,500 --> 00:09:54,500 Okay, so matter recycles, this is recycling. 153 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:57,500 Energy recycles, information recycles. 154 00:09:57,500 --> 00:10:01,500 Why should consciousness be the only exception? 155 00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:05,500 So we're living in fleeting moments of a dream, 156 00:10:05,500 --> 00:10:09,500 waiting to be recycled by the universe like a cosmic coke bottle. 157 00:10:09,500 --> 00:10:13,500 What you're saying is so suddenly, I mean nothing. 158 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:17,500 No, you are the nothing which is everything. 159 00:10:17,500 --> 00:10:23,500 You are the nothing without which there would be nothing to be experienced. 160 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:25,500 Does that mean that nothing matters though? 161 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:30,500 Everything matters. You are the infinite being having a finite experience. 162 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:32,500 I hope that's true. 163 00:10:32,500 --> 00:10:34,500 Josh has just named to that experience. 164 00:10:34,500 --> 00:10:37,500 Dr. Chopra's message is deceptively simple. 165 00:10:37,500 --> 00:10:40,500 We're pure eternal consciousness. 166 00:10:40,500 --> 00:10:44,500 And in the end, the afterlife is misnamed because there is no after. 167 00:10:44,500 --> 00:10:46,500 There is only life. 168 00:10:48,500 --> 00:10:51,500 Deepak's beliefs are largely rooted in the Hindu traditions he learned 169 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:53,500 in his native country of India. 170 00:10:53,500 --> 00:10:57,500 The best way to investigate their cycle of life, death and rebirth 171 00:10:57,500 --> 00:10:59,500 is to go straight to the source. 172 00:10:59,500 --> 00:11:04,500 I catch the next plane from California to the Indian capital of Delhi. 173 00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:14,500 Delhi itself has lived many past lives 174 00:11:14,500 --> 00:11:18,500 and they seem to hang over the city like a collection of ghosts. 175 00:11:18,500 --> 00:11:21,500 It has been conquered and reborn again and again. 176 00:11:21,500 --> 00:11:24,500 Its most current incarnation, New Delhi. 177 00:11:24,500 --> 00:11:27,500 India's modern capital built under British rule. 178 00:11:27,500 --> 00:11:30,500 But if I'm going to truly investigate the Hindu afterlife, 179 00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:33,500 I have to get out of town to some place older, 180 00:11:33,500 --> 00:11:35,500 some place more mystical, 181 00:11:35,500 --> 00:11:39,500 and a place where what happens after death can be witnessed firsthand. 182 00:11:42,500 --> 00:11:45,500 To examine the Hindu concepts of the afterlife, 183 00:11:45,500 --> 00:11:48,500 I'm making a pilgrimage to India's holiest city, 184 00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:54,500 which means taking a pack train heading east for 15 hours in 110 degree heat. 185 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:01,500 I might be on to my next life before I reach my destination, 186 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:05,500 which seems appropriate because at the end of the line 187 00:12:06,500 --> 00:12:08,500 is the city of death. 188 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:21,500 I'm on a train from Delhi, 189 00:12:21,500 --> 00:12:24,500 bound for one of the holiest Hindu cities in India 190 00:12:24,500 --> 00:12:27,500 to explore evidence of reincarnation, 191 00:12:27,500 --> 00:12:30,500 the idea that the afterlife is your next life. 192 00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:31,500 Hello. 193 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:32,500 Hi. 194 00:12:32,500 --> 00:12:33,500 Hello. 195 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:37,500 But first I have to survive a 15 hour train ride in this life. 196 00:12:37,500 --> 00:12:40,500 This apartment is known as No8C class, 197 00:12:40,500 --> 00:12:42,500 aka my class. 198 00:12:42,500 --> 00:12:46,500 India's railways handle more than 8 billion riders a year. 199 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:50,500 I just didn't expect all of them to be on my train. 200 00:12:51,500 --> 00:12:54,500 I finally wedge into a seat where I have the great fortune 201 00:12:54,500 --> 00:12:57,500 of meeting an animated stranger who has a lot to say about, 202 00:12:57,500 --> 00:12:59,500 well, about everything. 203 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:00,500 Namaste. 204 00:13:00,500 --> 00:13:01,500 Namaste. 205 00:13:01,500 --> 00:13:02,500 How are you? 206 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:03,500 Fine. I'm more fine to you. 207 00:13:03,500 --> 00:13:04,500 More fine than me? 208 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:05,500 Yeah, yeah. 209 00:13:05,500 --> 00:13:07,500 Suppose you are a 91% fine, 210 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:09,500 93%, 2% more. 211 00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:11,500 You're 2% more fine. 212 00:13:11,500 --> 00:13:12,500 It's close though. 213 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:15,500 I do palm reading, face reading, yoga, meditation. 214 00:13:16,500 --> 00:13:17,500 You do all those things. 215 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:18,500 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 216 00:13:18,500 --> 00:13:19,500 All at once? 217 00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:20,500 At the same time? 218 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:22,500 Good. Great. 219 00:13:22,500 --> 00:13:24,500 Can you read my palm? 220 00:13:24,500 --> 00:13:25,500 Yeah, why not? 221 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:26,500 I don't know. 222 00:13:26,500 --> 00:13:27,500 What do you see? 223 00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:29,500 This is your long life. 224 00:13:29,500 --> 00:13:31,500 This is your hard line. 225 00:13:31,500 --> 00:13:32,500 This is your mind line. 226 00:13:32,500 --> 00:13:34,500 Your very long life. 227 00:13:34,500 --> 00:13:36,500 94, maybe 95. 228 00:13:36,500 --> 00:13:37,500 Wow. 229 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:38,500 Yeah, very long life. 230 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:39,500 Good run. 231 00:13:39,500 --> 00:13:40,500 And your heart also very big. 232 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:42,500 You have very strong energy. 233 00:13:42,500 --> 00:13:43,500 Yes. 234 00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:45,500 Your good karma, past life, and this life. 235 00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:48,500 If I have good karma, and I live a good life, 236 00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:49,500 then good reincarnation. 237 00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:50,500 I come back. 238 00:13:50,500 --> 00:13:51,500 Yeah, come back. 239 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:53,500 How many times do you reincarnate? 240 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:54,500 Billion times. 241 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:55,500 I don't know. 242 00:13:55,500 --> 00:13:56,500 Who knows? 243 00:13:56,500 --> 00:13:57,500 Alive. 244 00:13:57,500 --> 00:13:58,500 Nobody knows. 245 00:13:58,500 --> 00:13:59,500 Everything possible. 246 00:13:59,500 --> 00:14:00,500 Good karma, then you go Nirvana. 247 00:14:00,500 --> 00:14:01,500 No next life. 248 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:03,500 Eventually I get to Nirvana. 249 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:04,500 Nirvana, yeah. 250 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:06,500 I am a king, giving a Bill Clinton. 251 00:14:06,500 --> 00:14:09,500 Like a Bill Clinton, a Chris, I sitting. 252 00:14:09,500 --> 00:14:10,500 I don't know what you're talking about, 253 00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:12,500 but I believe every word. 254 00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:16,500 My conversation with the fortune teller is long, 255 00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:18,500 weird, and wonderful. 256 00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:20,500 And it gets me thinking about the afterlife 257 00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:22,500 and which one I'm going to get. 258 00:14:22,500 --> 00:14:25,500 The Hindu concept of reincarnation is a lot like being on a train 259 00:14:25,500 --> 00:14:27,500 that's running on an infinite loop. 260 00:14:27,500 --> 00:14:30,500 Each stop represents the body's physical death 261 00:14:30,500 --> 00:14:32,500 and the rebirth of the soul. 262 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:35,500 How you act between each stop determines your karma 263 00:14:35,500 --> 00:14:37,500 and your circumstances in the next life. 264 00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:39,500 Collect good karma, you move to first class. 265 00:14:39,500 --> 00:14:41,500 Bad karma, you're in the caboose. 266 00:14:41,500 --> 00:14:44,500 But what if you want to exit the reincarnation train? 267 00:14:44,500 --> 00:14:47,500 Well, there's one place where Hindus believe you can't. 268 00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:53,500 After a long night in the rails, 269 00:14:53,500 --> 00:14:57,500 we arrive at dawn at the city of Varanasi. 270 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:08,500 What Mecca is to Muslims and Jerusalem is to Christians and Jews. 271 00:15:08,500 --> 00:15:10,500 Varanasi is to Hindus. 272 00:15:10,500 --> 00:15:13,500 For many, it's not just the journey of a lifetime, 273 00:15:13,500 --> 00:15:15,500 but the journey of their last lifetime. 274 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:21,500 Welcome to Varanasi, the holy city of death. 275 00:15:21,500 --> 00:15:23,500 According to Hindu tradition, 276 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:25,500 anyone who dies within these walls 277 00:15:25,500 --> 00:15:27,500 can be granted an eternal afterlife. 278 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:29,500 And because of that promise, 279 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:32,500 Varanasi attracts the sick and the dying. 280 00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:35,500 But despite the presence of death in Varanasi, 281 00:15:35,500 --> 00:15:37,500 there's life here too. 282 00:15:40,500 --> 00:15:42,500 Lots and lots of it. 283 00:15:42,500 --> 00:15:45,500 Life that reaches out and forcibly grabs you. 284 00:15:45,500 --> 00:15:46,500 Hello, how are you? 285 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:47,500 I'm good, how are you? 286 00:15:47,500 --> 00:15:48,500 I'm good. 287 00:15:48,500 --> 00:15:49,500 Namaste. 288 00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:51,500 Up, okay, okay. 289 00:15:51,500 --> 00:15:53,500 Here, yes, okay. 290 00:15:57,500 --> 00:15:58,500 Hi, how? 291 00:15:58,500 --> 00:16:01,500 So, for the love of Shiva. 292 00:16:01,500 --> 00:16:02,500 Sir, you're very strong. 293 00:16:02,500 --> 00:16:03,500 Strong, yes? 294 00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:04,500 Yeah. 295 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:06,500 Ow, ow, ow. 296 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:09,500 That's a three stooches move. 297 00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:12,500 Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow. 298 00:16:15,500 --> 00:16:16,500 Still relaxing. 299 00:16:16,500 --> 00:16:19,500 My legs up now, okay. 300 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:20,500 What's your name? 301 00:16:20,500 --> 00:16:21,500 What's my name? 302 00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:22,500 Now you ask. 303 00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:23,500 Josh. 304 00:16:23,500 --> 00:16:24,500 Josh. 305 00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:25,500 Tense. 306 00:16:25,500 --> 00:16:26,500 Tense, yes. 307 00:16:26,500 --> 00:16:27,500 Yes, I am a little tense. 308 00:16:27,500 --> 00:16:29,500 That's what happens when a strange man has his hands in my crotch 309 00:16:29,500 --> 00:16:30,500 on a park bench. 310 00:16:30,500 --> 00:16:31,500 But it does feel good. 311 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:32,500 Okay. 312 00:16:34,500 --> 00:16:35,500 Thank you very much. 313 00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:36,500 That was incredible. 314 00:16:36,500 --> 00:16:37,500 I feel reborn. 315 00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:38,500 God, that was amazing. 316 00:16:38,500 --> 00:16:41,500 Also, I think I'm in a serious relationship with this guy now. 317 00:16:43,500 --> 00:16:47,500 But it's not long before my tensions return, and then some. 318 00:16:52,500 --> 00:16:53,500 Oh, okay. 319 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:58,500 Sir, thank you for giving me this wonderful gift of fear and horror. 320 00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:01,500 My wife and kids are going to love our new path. 321 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:04,500 I know you wanted a dog, sweetie, but come on. 322 00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:19,500 I leave the snake charmer's stall and make my way through row after row of bustling street vendors toward the city's lifeblood. 323 00:17:20,500 --> 00:17:27,500 For Hindus, Varnazi is hallowed ground, and the source of its power is the river that runs through it, the holy Ganges. 324 00:17:27,500 --> 00:17:41,500 The entire city is built around the revered river, which is lined with stone steps that descend into the depths called Gats. 325 00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:48,500 And just upstream, one of the world's oldest and most intense rituals is still performed. 326 00:17:52,500 --> 00:17:54,500 So why is this place so holy? 327 00:17:54,500 --> 00:18:00,500 Well, according to Hindu mythology, it's because the god Shiva cut off one of the five heads of the god Brahma. 328 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:03,500 The head was dropped on the shore here and disappeared into the ground. 329 00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:10,500 And forever after, Varnazi was blessed with the power to end what's known as Samsara, the cycle of death and rebirth. 330 00:18:12,500 --> 00:18:20,500 Living endless lives is a lot of work, and Hindus aim to break free of the cycle and ascend to the ultimate state of nirvana. 331 00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:25,500 To get there, you have to be cremated in an elaborate ritual on the shores of the Ganges. 332 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:34,500 These are the burning gats, where perpetual fires consume more than 100,000 bodies every year. 333 00:18:34,500 --> 00:18:42,500 This is a place of holiness and death, and where very few outsiders are allowed to fully observe these ceremonies. 334 00:18:43,500 --> 00:18:46,500 This is the main burning gat of Varnazi, an extremely holy place. 335 00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:52,500 You can see there's fires going up on the banks. Those are bodies being burned. 336 00:18:53,500 --> 00:19:02,500 It's also a place that historically cameras have not been allowed, so our ability to go ashore here and to film any of this depends entirely on the openness of the people here. 337 00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:04,500 So let's see what happens. 338 00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:10,500 We glide toward the shore with no sense of how we'll be received. We could be welcomed. 339 00:19:10,500 --> 00:19:15,500 Or, as has happened to others in the past, accosted for attempting to film. 340 00:19:17,500 --> 00:19:20,500 Let's hope we've banked some good karma. 341 00:19:20,500 --> 00:19:25,500 The Ganges 342 00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:30,500 The Ganges 343 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:35,500 The Ganges 344 00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:38,500 The Ganges 345 00:19:39,500 --> 00:19:43,500 The Ganges 346 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:56,500 In the holy city of Varnazi, India, Hindu mourners gather on a sacred pier in order to usher their relatives into the afterlife and end their long cycle of reincarnation in our material world. 347 00:19:56,500 --> 00:20:03,500 I hope to witness this sacred ritual first-hand and experience the moment when these souls meet death head-on. 348 00:20:03,500 --> 00:20:11,500 Outsiders are rarely allowed to view this, and even asking to film could put me and my crew in a potentially risky situation. 349 00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:24,500 So this really is the main corner where all of the bodies pass by, and our local contact here is attempting to speak to one of the families that are having a funeral today to see if I can witness and participate in the procession. 350 00:20:24,500 --> 00:20:26,500 So, we'll see. 351 00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:32,500 My local contact is a man whose family helps run the Gats, and has long kept the fires burning here. 352 00:20:32,500 --> 00:20:38,500 He speaks with a man named Pawan, whose family is about to bring their relative down to the Gat for cremation. 353 00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:45,500 It would be a huge honor to witness this event, and I'm stunned when they agree to share the experience with us. 354 00:20:45,500 --> 00:20:47,500 Yeah, thank you. 355 00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:54,500 I'm invited to accompany the funeral procession down to the shore, the gateway to the final Hindu afterlife. 356 00:20:56,500 --> 00:21:09,500 So, what are they putting in his hand? 357 00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:16,500 The ball signifies the human body. It is made up of flour. We will dip his body in the holy Ganges. 358 00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:22,500 I'm rendered speechless when the family insists I join them in the ritual. 359 00:21:22,500 --> 00:21:30,500 I remove my shoes and help carry the deceased into the water, which is black from the burned remnants of countless thousands of bodies. 360 00:21:34,500 --> 00:21:40,500 We solemnly submerge the corpse in the river, while nearby, bathers swim and children play. 361 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:47,500 The flow of life in this city goes on uninterrupted. In Varanasi, it's all part of the same continuum. 362 00:21:53,500 --> 00:22:00,500 We move the deceased to the pyre. Hindus believe that flames purify the body and free the soul. 363 00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:09,500 The eldest son lights the body of his own brother on fire. It is an intense act of love and bravery. 364 00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:16,500 What happens next cannot be fully shown here. Through the heat of the fire, I witness his body deconstruct. 365 00:22:23,500 --> 00:22:31,500 The air in my lungs is filled with ash. I am engulfed by death, yet there is a sense of total calmness. 366 00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:34,500 We're here for a higher purpose. 367 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:45,500 As the flames rise, I see flashes of sadness, but also relief. 368 00:22:45,500 --> 00:22:54,500 The faithful believe that the cycle of reincarnation has been broken. It is an extraordinary moment, all performed in the open. 369 00:22:56,500 --> 00:23:07,500 Viewers in the West might find this ritual ghoulish, but consider this. To Hindus, our own practices of taking bodies and burying them to slowly decompose in the earth is equally macabre. 370 00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:15,500 There is a purity to this. Here, death isn't something to be hidden. It isn't something to turn away from. 371 00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:28,500 It's something to face. It's something to participate in. It's a companion. 372 00:23:29,500 --> 00:23:40,500 And in this moment and these flames, this is the Hindu afterlife, moksha. We would crudely call it heaven, but to them it is a release, a liberation and enlightenment. 373 00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:49,500 That's all I got. 374 00:23:50,500 --> 00:24:05,500 This fire and dozens of others burn day and night, reducing a never-ending flow of bodies to delicate ash to be released into the Ganges and sent swirling off to infinity. 375 00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:23,500 I make my way back to the Gats as the sun sets to witness one final act of worship. Every night, priests here perform arti, a lighting of lamps and offering of prayers. It's sort of a good night in thank you to the Ganges. 376 00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:55,500 For Hindus, in the afterlife you become one with the universe. And for an instant, I felt the immense power of that belief, a cycle of death and rebirth, and finally, a comforting farewell. It is something I will never forget. 377 00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:17,500 While the shores of Varnazis are a literal end-all be-all for Hindus, another of the world's major faiths is just up the road, with an entirely different view of what comes next. 378 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:22,500 To learn about the afterlife of Islam, I'm flying to Istanbul. 379 00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:34,500 I touch down in the city once called the New Rome, the European entrance into Asia from ancient days and the center of the great Muslim empire of the Ottomans. 380 00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:43,500 I gotta tell you, this is one of my absolute favorite cities in the world, Varnaz, the meeting point of Europe and Asia, the crossroads of empires. 381 00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:51,500 But for as much time as I've spent in predominantly Muslim nations like this, I don't really know much about Islam, not really. 382 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:57,500 And so, if I'm gonna understand the afterlife, I need to understand how 1.8 billion people see it. 383 00:25:58,500 --> 00:26:10,500 I have no plans to convert religions here, but it just so happens to be the eve of Islam's holy month of Ramadan, when righteous behavior can produce great rewards in the afterlife. 384 00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:17,500 So as an experiment, I'm going to try to spend one day living as a Muslim. 385 00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:25,500 I'm ready to meet my teacher tomorrow morning, the first day of Ramadan, so after grabbing an Islam for dummies kit from the Grand Bazaar, 386 00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:28,500 Huh? Pretty good, right? 387 00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,500 Look at that, very nice. 388 00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:35,500 I head back to the hotel for a much needed good night's sleep. 389 00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:45,500 What is that? 390 00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:50,500 But Ramadan, it turns out, is full of surprises. 391 00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:52,500 What the hell? 392 00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:58,500 What the hell? 393 00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:11,500 I'm in Istanbul on the first day of the holy month of Ramadan, to learn about the Islamic afterlife. 394 00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:15,500 But well before dawn, I'm awoken by a loud banging outside of my hotel. 395 00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:17,500 What is that? 396 00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:19,500 What the hell? 397 00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:24,500 What the hell? 398 00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:29,500 It is literally two in the morning. There's a guy drumming in the middle of the street. 399 00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:35,500 These are the Musa Harati, and they're basically God's wake-up call. 400 00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:43,500 During Ramadan, they remind you to get up and eat, because for the next 30 days, Muslims must fast from sunrise to sunset. 401 00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:46,500 Okay, I'm up. 402 00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:57,500 In these pre-dawn hours, my host has invited me to his home for Suhoor, the first and final meal of the day. 403 00:28:00,500 --> 00:28:02,500 How are you? How are you? Welcome. 404 00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:03,500 Thank you. 405 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:07,500 Imam Jannir Akdemir graciously invites me to meet his family. 406 00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:08,500 Hi, I'm Josh. 407 00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:09,500 Yes. 408 00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:10,500 Josh, come on in. 409 00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:13,500 And to sit down for an impressive breakfast. 410 00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:17,500 Wow, look at this. This looks incredible. Thank you for having me. 411 00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:23,500 We dive into the food, and my one day crash course in the ways of Islam is off and running. 412 00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:25,500 So tell me about the Islamic afterlife. 413 00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:30,500 I'm Muslim, and I die. What will happen to me? 414 00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:35,500 The afterlife, we have two ways. 415 00:28:35,500 --> 00:28:39,500 Which is the one that goes to heaven, and the other one that goes to hell. 416 00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:45,500 For the heaven, it's the acts you did in this life which were good, like giving charity. 417 00:28:45,500 --> 00:28:48,500 Even just smiling is just a good deed. 418 00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:57,500 But there's the other way which takes you to hell, like ruining someone's life, or like stealing, or being rude. 419 00:28:57,500 --> 00:29:01,500 Be good to your neighbor, and you go to heaven, known as Janah. 420 00:29:01,500 --> 00:29:06,500 Do him harm, and you'll be punished in hell, called Jahanam. 421 00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:11,500 All souls await physical resurrection for a so-called last day of judgment. 422 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:17,500 If the Islamic afterlife sounds pretty familiar, that's because there are some major similarities with Christianity. 423 00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:26,500 In fact, Islam recognizes both Moses and Jesus as prophets, but differs in the belief that Muhammad was sent as God's final prophet. 424 00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:32,500 The afterlife is a life of eternity. 425 00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:33,500 It's a life of eternity. 426 00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:40,500 Yeah, you're always healthy, and when you go there, you are always 33 years old. 427 00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:44,500 Wait a minute. When I go to the afterlife, I get to be 33 forever. 428 00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:47,500 Yes, not 32, not 34, 33. 429 00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:49,500 33 forever. I like this. 430 00:29:50,500 --> 00:30:00,500 But there are also five pillars of Islam, faith, fasting, praying five times a day, charity, and a pilgrimage to Mecca at least once in your life. 431 00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:03,500 In other words, Islam is a major commitment. 432 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:06,500 Okay, so this is the call to prayer? 433 00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:07,500 Yeah. 434 00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:08,500 So that's it? No more food? 435 00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:09,500 No more food. 436 00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:10,500 Step away? 437 00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:11,500 Yeah, step away. 438 00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:15,500 That's it. This is going to be the longest day of my life. 439 00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:21,500 We begin with the call of the morning at Hanh, the first of five daily prayers every Muslim observes. 440 00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:24,500 Allah Akbar. 441 00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:28,500 We face toward the holy city of Mecca and pray. 442 00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:31,500 Allah Akbar. 443 00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:39,500 With the sun up, Janer and I walk downtown to one of Istanbul's architectural gems, the Sulamani Mosque. 444 00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:54,500 We make our way beneath the cavernous dome, just in time for the second prayer of the day, which Janer is actually leading. 445 00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:58,500 Oh, oh, oh. 446 00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:05,500 I spend a few hours fasting with thousands of faithful Muslims until it's time for the day's third prayer with some of Janer's colleagues. 447 00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:13,500 Don't tell them, but my stomach is growling, and right now I am mostly praying for the sun to set. 448 00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:19,500 The fact is this whole Ramadan thing isn't easy. No food, no water, five sets of prayers. 449 00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:23,500 This is hard, and I'm only trying to pull this off for a day. 450 00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:28,500 People here, people around the Islamic world, they're doing this for an entire month. 451 00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:34,500 As evening approaches, we head to the blue mosque. 452 00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:40,500 Outside, Janer and I find a place to sit for the iftar, the dinner that breaks the daily fast. 453 00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:44,500 The city has prepared meals for everyone in attendance. 454 00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:48,500 How will we know when it's time? 455 00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:56,500 That's how. A cannon blast marks the moment of sundown, and the Muslim world eats en masse. 456 00:31:56,500 --> 00:32:03,500 In this square alone, there are 30,000 people chowing down. 457 00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:10,500 After supper, we go inside the venerated blue mosque for the fourth prayer of the day. 458 00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:20,500 For me to be invited to join prayers here as a non-Muslim is a big deal, and one that I don't take lightly. 459 00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:24,500 The fact is, I'm an outsider here, though you'd hardly know it. 460 00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:31,500 I've been treated with warmth and patience by people with views much different from my own. 461 00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:39,500 When the fifth and final set of prayers is done, I head back to my hotel, where I take off my cap, 462 00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:44,500 thankful to have lived one day in another person's faith. 463 00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:55,500 While Islam and Christianity are utterly distinct, 464 00:32:55,500 --> 00:33:03,500 followers of both religions believe in a judgment after death and a heaven and hell with angels and demons. 465 00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:08,500 Is it possible, though, that the denizens of those realms can pray on the living? 466 00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:11,500 Is the afterlife pushing into our world today? 467 00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:17,500 To meet a man who has spent decades in a fight against what he believes to be demons from the other side, 468 00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:25,500 I fly to New York City, where in a nearby suburb, I'm getting exclusive access to an event unlike anything I've ever witnessed. 469 00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:29,500 A Case of Demonic Possession 470 00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:35,500 Well, my next stop is to meet with a man named Reverend Bob Larson, and he's not just a man of the cloth. 471 00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:43,500 He is a real life honest to God exorcist, and he's invited me to see one of his cases and understand what he does firsthand. 472 00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:49,500 Now, I'm an open-minded guy, but when it comes to the subject of exorcism, I'd be lying if I didn't say, 473 00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:53,500 I've got some preconceived notions, mostly thanks to one very famous movie. 474 00:33:53,500 --> 00:34:02,500 But if this is real, the idea that people can be possessed or inhabited by spirits or even a demon, then that's terrifying. 475 00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:06,500 And I gotta be honest, I don't have a clue what to expect here. 476 00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:16,500 Hello? 477 00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:17,500 Hi, are you Gabriel? 478 00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:18,500 I am, are you Josh? 479 00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:19,500 Hey, yeah, nice to meet you. 480 00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:20,500 Thank you so much for coming. Please come in. 481 00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:22,500 Yeah, thanks so much. 482 00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:25,500 Reverend Larson. 483 00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:26,500 Pleasure to meet you. 484 00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:27,500 Pleasure. 485 00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:29,500 Yeah, thank you so much for having me over. 486 00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:34,500 Reverend Larson is one of a select group of clergy that works a very dark beat. 487 00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:35,500 Exorcism. 488 00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:41,500 Dozens of cultures through the ages have performed similar rituals, and they seem to be on the rise. 489 00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:51,500 In fact, the demand for exorcisms is so high these days that the Vatican recently invited 250 priests to learn the sacred rites. 490 00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:56,500 Reverend Larson and Gabriel explain that their subject, Ruben, is waiting for us upstairs. 491 00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:59,500 We take a moment to talk about his case. 492 00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:02,500 This is a gentleman that I met some months back. 493 00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:05,500 He immediately manifested demonic behavior. 494 00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:07,500 What did he manifest? 495 00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:09,500 Well, he began to growl. 496 00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:16,500 And his hands formed like claws, and his eyes rolled back in his head. 497 00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:19,500 I knew there's something pretty dramatic was going on. 498 00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:20,500 And how long have you known him? 499 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,500 I've known him for about two years. 500 00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:23,500 And this is behavior you've observed? 501 00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:24,500 Yes, I've seen it. 502 00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:28,500 It comes over him suddenly without warning, and it becomes an entirely different person. 503 00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:29,500 It's terrifying. 504 00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:32,500 As an outsider to this world, what should I expect? 505 00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:35,500 His behavior can be extremely violent. 506 00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:38,500 So you guys might have to hang on to it. 507 00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:40,500 Are you ready for this? 508 00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:42,500 I'm as ready as I'm going to be. 509 00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:47,500 Nobody, including me, is ever really ready for an exorcism. 510 00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:48,500 After you. 511 00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:20,500 On tonight's search for the afterlife, I sailed down the Holy Ganges. 512 00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:26,500 And in my travels, I've spent a lot of time in the world's most sacred spaces. 513 00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:30,500 Anchor Wat, the largest religious structure in the world. 514 00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:35,500 The sky caves of Nepal, most of which have never been explored. 515 00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:37,500 Absolutely stunning. 516 00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:41,500 Stonehenge, the eternal monument. 517 00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:44,500 They are a monument to time. 518 00:36:44,500 --> 00:36:49,500 Teotihuacan, Mexico's forgotten empire. 519 00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:53,500 Look at that view. 520 00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:13,500 In my exploration into evidence of the afterlife, I've arrived at the home of a man who believes himself to be possessed by demons. 521 00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:20,500 Now, with renowned exorcist Reverend Bob Larson, I may be about to face off with pure evil. 522 00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:28,500 Reverend Larson's subject, a man named Ruben, is meditating upstairs, waiting for the ritual to begin. 523 00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:32,500 The whole house feels like it's vibrating like a beehive. 524 00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:33,500 It's going to be a good day. 525 00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:34,500 Okay? 526 00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:36,500 We're going to get you through this, man. 527 00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:42,500 I want to be clear, this man is not a performer, and what you're seeing here is not set up. 528 00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:47,500 I don't know what he's going through, but I can tell you that he believes it's very real. 529 00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:53,500 When these demons torment you, do you hear them or just feel them? 530 00:37:53,500 --> 00:37:57,500 I could feel them. 531 00:37:57,500 --> 00:37:59,500 Try to keep your eyes on me. 532 00:37:59,500 --> 00:38:03,500 And if something else wants to look at me, let it look at me. 533 00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:13,500 If something hates me, it should, because I represent God. 534 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:15,500 In your head, do you ever hear a name? 535 00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:17,500 Okay. 536 00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:18,500 Okay. 537 00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:20,500 What was the name? 538 00:38:20,500 --> 00:38:22,500 Are you afraid to say it? 539 00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:24,500 Um, yeah, a little bit. 540 00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:26,500 Okay, what was the name? 541 00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:36,500 By forcing the demon to name itself, Reverend Larson claims he can gain control of the evil spirit at the root of Ruben's suffering and drive it from his body. 542 00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:44,500 I know you in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. 543 00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:46,500 What is your name? 544 00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:48,500 Look at me, spirit. 545 00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:50,500 Who speaks for you? 546 00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:52,500 Murderer. 547 00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:54,500 Murderer. 548 00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:56,500 Murderer. 549 00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:58,500 Murderer. 550 00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:00,500 Murderer. 551 00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:02,500 Murderer. 552 00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:04,500 Murderer. 553 00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:06,500 Murderer. 554 00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:08,500 Murderer. 555 00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:12,500 If you could get your hands on me, what would you do? 556 00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:14,500 I'll twist your neck. 557 00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:20,500 Take the sword of God's spirit and I strike you, judgment. 558 00:39:22,500 --> 00:39:24,500 No! No! 559 00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:26,500 No! 560 00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:28,500 No! 561 00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:30,500 No! 562 00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:32,500 Who's with you? 563 00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:34,500 Answer me. 564 00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:36,500 There are many. 565 00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:44,500 Get on your feet, murder. 566 00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:46,500 So come on over here. 567 00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:50,500 We're gonna get rid of this thing. 568 00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:54,500 It's murder. 569 00:39:54,500 --> 00:39:58,500 And it's a killing spirit. It is very destructive. 570 00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:06,500 You will now receive God's judgment. 571 00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:08,500 Do you have legal authority remaining? 572 00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:12,500 Do you have legal authority remaining? 573 00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:14,500 If you have none, you must leave. 574 00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:16,500 No! 575 00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:18,500 I want to have great power. 576 00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:20,500 Spill them out! 577 00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:22,500 I can't hold them. 578 00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:36,500 In Indonesia, I encounter a place where the dead can live again. 579 00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:43,500 And in Las Vegas, I'm off to meet a magician who doesn't believe in magic. 580 00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:45,500 Faith is belief without evidence. 581 00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:50,500 Get rid of the word faith and we can really talk about what's true. 582 00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:54,500 And in Russia, I learn how the only afterlife may be living forever. 583 00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:57,500 There are 59 people in these tanks? 584 00:40:57,500 --> 00:41:02,500 Before dropping into the Amazon to experience the vine of death. 585 00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:04,500 I want to see what it does. 586 00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:11,500 Yeah! 587 00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:13,500 Lusbo! Lusbo!